Joan Crawford says...
jag tyckte tidigare att popkonst inte var något speciellt, nästan som en stöld av någon annans konst som du säger. Fast på senare år så tycker jag faktiskt att en del verk är rätt häftiga även om Impressionismen ligger mig varmast om hjärtat.
I utgångspunkt så tycker jag att din ursprungliga ide till den här bilden dög bra med hjälp av vinklar och reflexer i golvet. Men naturligtvis så blir det oftast mest intressant om en person är med i bilden, jag försöker tänka likadant.
Inte direkt en bild som man förknippar med dig, mer likt din brors stil kanske. Hursomhelst en bra bild från en intressant miljö!
ps. Nu kan det inte vara många länder kvar i Europa som du inte har besökt?
- Royaldevon (54690)
- [2015-09-15 12:32]
I agree with your notes about making the picture your own, which has clearly been achieved, as you say, by the irregularity of the introducing f/g and then, by the inclusion of the unsuspecting model; her raised foot adds a sense of motion, she is definitely less permanent than Joan Crawford! Then, of course, there are the reflections which add depth, too.
It's a very clean, almost minimalistic shot.
I must say, I was surprised!
I don't really know why but Joan Crawford is not the sort of model that I expected to be on display in Vienna! The world is full of surprises!
My warm regards,
Hello dear friend and have a nice time
all your photos bring your personal stamp
here we have a simple capture very different
frpm most photos it brings a message
from the past welldone
but I personally prefer your photos
concerning different traditions
back to the time and many years ago
lets hope that soon we ll see
some photos from the past
- BennyV (24789)
- [2015-09-15 12:38]
Totally agree with your comments on pictures from museums, Gert. This sure is good example. The girl walking in, the picture shot sort of accidentally on purpose. I like the reflections and the white walls most, though.
The shot in the WS is more fun, especially as combined with your note. Glad to see Hanson's work integrated in the expo. There was a big exhibtion of Hanson sculptures in Brussels one or two years ago. Very unsettling!
Tfs & all the best!
At the outset, I agree with you completely. It doesn't make sense to present just the art at a gallery, but to include the visitors. Indeed, even people taking pictures of the art are making a statement, "I was there!" This is a very nicely composed shot with the small alcove (where Joan Crawford's painting is displayed) located in the best possible area of the frame. The visitor seems somewhat bewildered, looking in the wrong direction. I hope you don't mind hanging this in the group theme, Pictures at an Exhibition II. Pop Art, associated with a group of American artists, including Andy Warhol and Roy Lichtenstein, is not my favorite genre, but it has its place — conceived in the 50s and 60s and pretty much abandoned in the 50s and 60s.
- dta (91052)
- [2015-09-15 13:20]
hello Gert ,
You're right : the presence of people gives something more in pictures taken in museum . But I must say that , even without the woman , this scene could be interesting . For the excellent perspective , and the stunning contrast between the white walls and the colorfulpainting , with a fine refelctions on the bright ground .
- ourania (51103)
- [2015-09-15 13:38]
I like this picture and the note that accompanies it, your opinion about taking photos in art galleries and the story behind this capture. Before reading your note, though, it looked to me like you had just stepped into this room when the girl turned around asking you "who's Joan Crawford?":) I like the diverse framings you added to Joan Crawford's ad portrait and the unexpected by graceful intervention of the visitor. The artworks you are showing in the workshop picture interact superbly. Congratulations and thank you!
All the best, have a good night,
- GFSSD-1 (5888)
- [2015-09-15 14:10]
Simple good composition from the galeria.
- emka (125665)
- [2015-09-15 14:33]
Hello Gert, I agree with you that the photo just of the painting isn't in fact your own work. But when there is also the setting - the interior of the museum, then it can be. But situation is different with the sculpture, here you can choose different viewpoints.
Strange photo from this museum - only one visitor (besides you) and the walls are also almost empty. I remember Joan Crawford from Baby Jane. Strange that the actress so famous as she is on the advertisement, but mayb ejust in this painting? There were famous adverts of Camel and the model died of cancer.
I prefer maybe the Workshop photo, your story and photo is so amusing. I saw somewhere such "persons" that I had to touch to see it they are real or not.
WArm regards MAlgo
- carlo62 (70340)
- [2015-09-15 15:06]
le tue foto non sono dei furti ad opere altrui, ma dei veri e propri esempi di come effettuare fotografie nei musei.
Condivido con te la scelta di questa foto da mettere come principale, il gioco di prospettiva, la posa della ragazza e i riflessi, costituiscono un'opera degna di stare nel museo.
- lousat (110389)
- [2015-09-15 15:46]
Hi Gert,fantastic perspective into this museum room dedicate to this peinture made in the same year when i was born..ehee...great note and great pic too,there is all your photographic class inside,and the quality is absolutely perfect.Have a nice day and thanks,Luciano
- PiotrF (35044)
- [2015-09-15 16:25]
Thank you for detailed notes.Excellent sharpness and the overall technical features.Good work.
- abmdsudi (72074)
- [2015-09-15 23:36]
I like the cool formality of this, what is valuable is the juxtaposition of the visitor with the exhibit which creates an excellent composition. The reflective surfaces collaborates smoothly adding so much to the shot. Well done, Congrats
- jemaflor (116212)
- [2015-09-15 23:51]
Interesting view with these lines and geometrical forms, well with only these two ladies and reflections on the floor, good exposure.
- tyro (26898)
- [2015-09-15 23:55]
Well, this upload has something for just about everyone and every taste - an interesting note with details about a famous actress, art, advertising, the corruption of tobacco promotion - and a fine photograph of amazing graphic quality featuring a famous face as well as a simple passer-by.
If this photograph were simply one of Joan Crawford's painting taken from this viewpoint it would have been perfectly good enough - I love the way the walls of the alcove frame the painting and yet crop a little of its right side - and the near wall on the left adds a further frame. But the inclusion of a young lady who is looking towards you with a rather forlorn and "lost" look and with her head tilted just like Joan's - that is the icing on the cake!
A very striking and appealing photograph, very well seen and very well taken - and of excellent technical quality too.
- CLODO (39283)
- [2015-09-15 23:58]
You're posting again, good news. 100% in accordance with your note for the pictures taken in a museum, if you take only the painting, it's only a photocopy!
I like how my eyes are directed to the painting by the different walls and the live lady seeming to look for the exit is a bonus, looking in the same direction than the poster
- dkmurphys (75046)
- [2015-09-16 0:11]
Very artistic scene from that museum. A minimalist shot with a spectacular result. I like the painting, love the American commercial style.
- mayjayne (7380)
- [2015-09-16 2:31]
You are very correct in your statement about museum shots! I like your idea and way of presenting this JC poster here.
I entirely agree with you about the need for the photographer to "add" something, when taking images of this sort. (You may know the work of Wolfgang Schanze - wolf38 - who sadly hasn't posted for several months now.) Here, here and here are examples of what he does so well. And you do too! It's the space, quirky framing, human presence, and placement of the main focus of interest in the strong thirds position that makes this image work so well. At this level of detail, I can't see any reason for you to apologize about the technical quality either!
- williewhistler (16606)
- [2015-09-16 3:30]
I do enjoy the look of surprise upon the young girl`s face,she will be even more surprised if she learns of her presence on TE,the contrast between her casual clothes and the elegant Joan Crawford could hardly be greater.
The irregular walls and overall composition contribute massively to a fine piece of photography.
Warm regards Les.
- gervaso (23435)
- [2015-09-16 4:21]
Indeed a different and original photo, and I like both the result and the explanation of it in your note! The lines dividing the image in layers with different tones of white are great, and the woman completes the scene perfectly beside the painting! Excellent job! Well done!
- annjackman (21903)
- [2015-09-16 4:42]
You were right I think to step back and include the white walls as it makes a very appealing graphic shot. The woman walking into the picture and her juxtaposition with Joan Crawford makes it an arty photo. The reflections in the floor fills some of the white space nicely.
Kind Regards, Ann
- jean113 (10349)
- [2015-09-16 7:42]
Hello Gert,I was surprised initially by the amount of white wall with NO art work!
I am glad that you decided to take several shots in this space, which allowed time for the girl to appear.
I really like it. I wonder what the girl thought when she came round the corner and saw you there with your camera?
Interesting note, thank you.
- danos (110383)
- [2015-09-16 8:14]
well chosen the POV with the created depth to lead-in the eye on the backdrop of the scene and especially on the colourful painting as the visitor too.Excellent the light and the colour management of the scene.
- cornejo (55812)
- [2015-09-16 11:12]
Gert Hello, very nice picture of this interesting scene of everyday life in the museum, very well composed and captured in this interesting image with good sharpness, light, color and quality. A great job well done, congratulations my friend. Thank you for sharing this interesting work.
Good evening and happy rest of the week.
Warm greetings from southern Spain.
- No_One (4)
- [2015-09-16 11:44]
I agree wth you that museum piece photos can be dry, but I Ike a lot what you have done here, more than anything that the young girl Looks lost and amazed in this place. Your title is very intriguing.
- rbassin (25743)
- [2015-09-16 11:48]
Excellent cadrage sur une scène interessante prise dans ce musée,bonne contribution personnelle avec l'insertion du visiteur; moment décisif, regard identique.
- rychem (57329)
- [2015-09-16 21:45]
Great graphical photo, it is something for me, nice effect of lines and shapes and an eye catcher: a coorful poster an a woman as visitor in the museum, the reult is great
- worldcitizen (11114)
- [2015-09-17 13:30]
I think you came up with a fine composition. The painting with Joan Crawford, and the woman looking up, jump out against the white walls and floors. The narrowing in of the walls leads us to the artwork, and is very geometric. When I hear Joan Crawford's name, it always reminds me of the movie "Mommie Dearest". That was quite a story!
- papagolf21 (130459)
- [2015-09-17 23:49]
Bonjour, cher ami Gert,
Félicitations pour cette composition très réussie. L'oeil du photographe ne s'est pas trompé.
I like your approach to photographing inside a museum and I totally agree with you. Awesome composition, simple but very effective. Good placement of the subject with plenty of open space. Good lighting and nice details even the white walls and the floor. Very well done, tfs.
I'm still having problem uploading for 3 days now.
Simple but very clever idea for this photo, well done. Today I like the minimalist compositions, good example of this one. Good graphic and fine DoF!
- chrisnet (23062)
- [2015-09-18 11:06]
Very well taken, I like the good perspectives of the white walls and the inclusion of the woman, well done.
- gildasjan (43826)
- [2015-09-18 11:22]
Une image en haute en lumière avec ce blanc.Notre regard est irrésistiblement attiré vers le fond de l'image.C'est bien vu.
- Highmountains (2674)
- [2015-09-18 12:49]
Absolutely fascinating shot.
Joan Crawford at a museum in Vienna - that's a big surprise...
But the composition is certainly enhanced by the appearance of the unsuspecting lady. This 'surprise' is - if I may say - a masterstroke.
The walls and the angles created by it add a modern contemporary style to the photograph. The lady, who has now become a model and JC break away from the angular lines to normal curves.
The shadows with the colours in the soft shadow completes the series of surprises that constitutes the fascinating showpiece.
Essentially I do not see any difference from your other photographs - all of which tell a certain story. I see the same here, albeit in a different construct.
Thanks for sharing, Gert.
- Nicou (171698)
- [2015-09-19 1:20]
fantastique vue et captage quelle dame dans cette exposition avec la partie vide et neutre et en fond cette affiche rouge superbe captage.
Bravo et amitié
- pajaran (80101)
- [2015-09-19 5:40]
Interesantan i lep pogled, dobar tekst ...
Lepo pokazano, dobra ostrina, kontrast i perspektiva, lepo uhvacen trenutak.
Dobra kompozicija, lepo uhvacen refleks na podu, lepe boje.
Dobar rad, lepo secanje na glumicu i umetnika.
Lepa slika umetnika.
Lepo popodne i sve najbolje za vikend, srecno.
Interesting and nice view, good text ...
Nice demonstrated, good sharpness, contrast and perspective, beautifully captured moment.
Good composition, caught a nice reflection on the floor, beautiful colors.
Good work, good memory of the actress and artist.
Nice picture of the artist.
Nice afternoon and all the best for the weekend, good luck.
- Silvio1953 (174250)
- [2015-09-19 7:00]
Ciao Gert, lovely and original composition, fantastic light and excellent clarity, very well done, my friend, have a good week end, ciao Silvio
- Fis2 (126491)
- [2015-09-19 7:52]
Interesting interior of galeria.
Excellent composition and framing.
Good colors and light
- GyurMaster (12284)
- [2015-09-19 9:49]
Simplicity, which works well here. The idea to step back and picture the women as a tiny, solitary creature, was definitely a good idea.
- Graal (103038)
- [2015-09-19 11:11]
very nice interior. Good reportage and presentation of the fragment of exhibition. Good composition. Also I like the contrast. Well done photo.
Have a nice evening.
- ChrisJ (138426)
- [2015-09-19 17:58]
I like both the high key tone and minimalist color. The reflection in the shiny floor is pretty good too! Excellent sharpness and well framed and composed. The woman adds a fine focal point, scale, and she animates the scene. Tfs.
- Tue (58306)
- [2015-09-20 1:23]
Great museum impression! The girl is a great addition indeed and it's wonderful that she and Miss Crawford both look in the same direction, as if they both have discovered something of interest there. Nice reflection in the floor too.
- ikeharel (91822)
- [2015-09-20 1:55]
Good morning Gert,
You made a nice premeditation about TE rules that will show the beautiful poster and yet be your "own" creation of a nice presentation.
The white walls and the shining floor, leading the viewer towards the poster of known actress, with the lone lady passing and looking at you, gave a fine depth through.
Immaculate photojob, my cong.'s.
- jhm (177614)
- [2015-09-20 4:24]
The second picture is very well taken, with nice details of the painting and the lady.
Your head picture, showing excellent the reflections on the floor.
Perfect depth and perspective picture
Colours and sharpness make your picture attractive.
An excellent composition, nice done.
Very well done, TFS.
Have a nice day,
- npecanhuk (79319)
- [2015-09-20 4:28]
Very interesting and attractive picture, with special regards to the exposure, colors and the smart, eye-catching minimalist composition!
TFS - congrats,
- marabu61 (11587)
- [2015-09-20 4:44]
Apart from the fact that a picture of the Joan Crawford picture in itself would have been simply boring, I completely agree with you about the way photos of art must have a creative angle to it to make it your own.
I quite like the simple and clean lines of the walls and the girls adds just the right amount of distraction from the otherwise white walls. So all together a very successful composition.
hejdå och trevlig helg
- Matyas (0)
- [2015-09-20 13:22]
Hello Gert! Fine idea, fine minimalistic composition. Perfect exposure and capture. Well done!
- saxo042 (38026)
- [2015-09-20 23:26]
Att gå på museum och ta bilder på andra besökare är ju trevligt och man kan få dubbla bilder, så att säga. Ingen ny idé men en bra utdelning på detta tema här. Faktiskt en bild i min stil!
- adramad (57114)
- [2015-09-21 5:11]
Superb and original composition, in this showroom, have achieved great DOF, showroom, and all our attention is focused on the image of the actress, who fills the background color of the picture, the girl seems surprised and It gets the vital touch to the composition.
Very nice and effective color tones.
Good management brightness and excellent sharpness.
Well done. My congratulations.
All the best and have a good start to the week.
You chose the odd angles and the spaciousness as your motive. The idea of bringing some alive into the frame was good. She baffled woman is perfect in her B/W clothes linked up with Joan Crawford. Well Gert; what can I say?? You're a clever gent.
- macjake (83605)
- [2015-09-21 15:56]
I'm like you, I'm not one for these Gallery photos and modern art specifically.
for some reason, when I look at this shot, it reminds me alot of the famous CAMPBELLS SOUP CAN art - you know that one i'm referring to?
I also feel like i'm walking toward the 'light', so much bright white here lol
and hey, sometimes its fun to step out of our comfortable boundaries - in photography and in life in general, nothing wrong with that.
- nikkitta (17070)
- [2015-09-22 12:30]
Wuawwww, lots of time without watching a photo deserving such comments and points
Interesting personal note, you were right to be happy with the chosen frame and the gild appearing and staying just for you make this a creative personal shot
- Waylim (25436)
- [2015-09-22 19:20]
We do all kinds of photos, landscape, people abstracts, architectures...this is one of them. I like the simplicity of it and the art work with color draw us in to the space without all the clutters.
- Cricri (144170)
- [2015-09-24 13:00]
sublime la blancheur du musée, l'affiche et la personne attire le regard, bonne lumière et reflets, excellente réalisation
- PaulVDV (42345)
- [2015-09-27 11:51]
If there wasn't this big painting on the wall, I'd think that the lady was actually in an isolation room. OK, maybe a bit disrespectful of me.
Excellently composed and even a museum can show reflections.
The visitor seems to look for what Joan Crawford is looking at.
Best regards, Paul
- Gigidusud (21669)
- [2015-09-30 14:02]
Vraiment une belle réussite cette capture du musée. La clarté de la pièce et les formes fond ressortir le tableau dans le fond. La présence humaine est un bonus ainsi que les reflets au sol. Excellente l'autre prise de vue dans le WS. Bravo!
- Hansaphotos (9967)
- [2015-10-01 11:44]
Må si meg enig med konklusjonen din, om at bilder fra kunstgallerier krever noe mer enn bare å formidle kunstverket i seg selv. Dette er et meget attraktivt bilde med en gjennomtenkt komposisjon. Veldig fornuftig også å inkludere det lille feltet av hvit vegg i forgrunnen på venstre side, det er med på å skape ytterligere dybde-effekt. Forskjellige nyanser av hvitt og grått sammen med refleksjonene i det polerte gulvet, damen, kunstverket og spennende vinkler i rommet skaper en dynamisk helhet. Veldig fint:)
- adores (46937)
- [2015-10-01 16:55]
I like this, the painting, the girl and all this whiteness - they really stand out in background. I like the graphism and the reflections and the pose of the girl really makes the composition much better!
- pili51 (1853)
- [2015-10-02 12:26]
excellent very graphic compo, where the light plays a very important role to emphasize the lines, angles and all sorts of white and grey.
I like your framing and your way of playing with light.
I also like the presence of discrete character at the end of the corridor.
A place that lends itself to the picture, and as well works finely.
Best wishes from Barcelona,
- delpeoples (60286)
- [2015-10-15 2:55]
Ahhh Mommy Dearest. I read the biography of Joan Crawford by her daughter many years ago and it still haunts me. For such a beautiful woman, she was not a very nice lady. But your photo is very artistic of this gallery, Joan and her spectator. The reflections and angles are beautifully rendered. An artistic and attractive photo, a little work of art itself.
I definitely like this "art in photography" series of yours. :-)
You must be really glad you decided to take another photo and didn't miss the opportunity to include the woman who had suddenly appeared in the frame.
You made the image very graphic by including the surroundings - the geometric patterns created by the walls. The reflection is a nice touch.
Great workshop image too!
- Vasa (515)
- [2015-11-09 16:21]
Again alone with two ladies! Gert! Gert!
- Haymotion (2761)
- [2015-11-23 5:14]
Hi Gert !
U are a big travellers and you have a beautiful gallery !
I like specially this one with all the different White and in the center this person with this color poster!
Very estetic and geometric foto.
- alvaraalto (30532)
- [2016-02-13 1:35]
Looking at the point for this picture there are enough TE member who enjoy this “different” photo. I certainly do. As a matter of fact, I love to make pictures in museums. Pictures of just the art for my own pleasure, to enjoy it once more. But I always observe the interaction between the visitor and the art and that gives me often the opportunity to take interesting picture of that interaction. Sometimes I did and will in future upload some of them.
You made in this picture a important and succesful choice to show the woman and the art at the background surrounded by a lot of white walls. I like it very much
- sacimar (34625)
- [2017-09-20 6:01]
interesting image of this art exhibition, I like the composition with the woman and the painting at the end of the room, the visual effect is interesting, well seen and presented,
- jmdias (80623)
- [2018-01-21 6:36]
I liked the use of the lines of these walls around and the personage in front the painting ahead.
anyway if I would be there I would take the image only of the painting, a way I use to keep the memory of the place and the art exposed. I am a painter too and I won't be bored someone taking photos from my artworks..