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Copyright: Bulent Atalay (batalay) Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Star Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 6786 W: 476 N: 12169] (41257)
Genre: Places
Medium: Color
Date Taken: 2007-07-12
Categories: Architecture
Camera: Nikon D-70, 18-70mm DX Zoom Nikkor
Photo Version: Original Version, Workshop
Theme(s): Spiral staircases, More than 300 points to 400 - (photos), Tipica Italia, Visiting Italy, Places that i want to visit, Memorable Staircases [view contributor(s)]
Date Submitted: 2008-02-08 22:14
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[Note Guidelines] Photographer's Note

This staircase designed by Giuseppe Momo in 1932 is one of the most photographed staircases in the world, and has appeared on Trekearth a number of times. With some trepidation I am also getting into the fray, submitting a wide-angle shot that I photographed on July 12, 2007 when I was visiting the Vatican Museum. The imaginative architect had used a pair of interwoven circular stairs — one for ascending, the other for descending — solving the logistic problem of ushering in and ushering out thousands of tourists daily. Several years earlier when I last visited the museum, both courses were open. Now it appears, they no longer allow visitors to ascend this way, making one of the stairs redundant. Viewing a circular staircase from the top (or conversely, viewing it from the bottom) creates the optical illusion of a mathematical logarithmic spiral. This is the same type of spiral that nature prefers, as it is seen in the chambered nautilus, the horns of a ram, the winds in a hurricane, the water in a whirlpool, and the stars in a spiral galaxiy. Nature does not particularly care for other types of spirals — such as the hyperbolic or the Archimedian spiral. Toilet paper is an example of the Archimedian spiral. One of the finest examples of these spirals appears in the interior structure of Joel berthonneau's Helicoid Staircase. His lighthouse staircase has a helical structure. The Vatican Staircase in my photo, is the "double helix," as Malgorzata (emka) pointed out.

My principle reason for visiting the Vatican Museum had been to see the classical statue, Laocoön, a work that had impressed Michelangelo. Indeed, in AD 1506, when the classical statue was unearthed in excavations being carried out at the Palace of Tiberius, Pope Julius II, dispatched Michelangelo to the site in order to assess the discovery. The great sculptor was so deeply impressed by the work, that the Pope decided to establish this, the first public museum in the world.

Nikon D-70, 18-70 mm Nikkor lens, UV-filter, ISO set on 200, tripod. Although I used the 18-mm setting, this staircase would best be photographed with a 10.5 mm fisheye lens which I don’t own.

PS on a suggestion from Korkut (bostankorkulugu), I've posted a b&w version of this photograph.

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ThreadThread Starter Messages Updated
To emka: The Double Helix in 1932...batalay 1 2008-02-09 07:41
To Dpbours: Logarithmic staircase..batalay 2 2008-02-10 07:05
To jlbrthnn: logarithmic/helicoid staircase...batalay 1 2008-02-09 12:34
To cak: logaritmic spiralbatalay 1 2008-02-09 01:18
Mona Lisastego 1 2008-02-09 04:53
To tober: Sonsuz merdivenler.batalay 1 2008-02-10 08:59
To Olympos: Logarithmic spiralbatalay 1 2008-02-11 06:10
To Angshu: Fisheye lens...batalay 4 2008-02-13 05:23
To PixelTerror: fisheye lens...batalay 1 2008-02-12 08:24
To pboehringer: Blur...batalay 1 2008-02-13 10:05
To Didi: Spiral...batalay 3 2008-02-19 08:03
To Merline: Double Spiral...batalay 1 2008-02-19 07:56
To axiotea: Marble wall...batalay 1 2008-02-20 12:37
To temmel: Spiral...batalay 1 2008-02-28 06:43
To marjan: logarithmic spiral...batalay 1 2008-03-08 12:03
To Uhu: Spiral...batalay 1 2008-03-14 10:18
To Bratman: Spiral staircase...batalay 1 2008-03-20 08:22
To jorgi: Spiral staircase...batalay 1 2008-03-27 04:45
To tetixxx: Selam ve saygilar...batalay 1 2008-05-02 12:12
To oreyd: The logarithmic spiralbatalay 1 2009-10-19 08:31
To BluSimo: shell...batalay 1 2010-05-08 06:25
To HFASSOURAKIS: Cretebatalay 1 2011-06-08 09:36
To lakshmip1949: Double helixbatalay 1 2011-10-16 11:15
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Another POV of these well known stairs!!People are well captured and I like how all walking down
Have a nice weekend,dear friend

Hello Bulent,

Yes the stairwell is quite unique and beautiful. Its desing is very attractive and the way you composed the image gives even more interest. Nice light and details. The people add life and size to the scene. Thanks Bulent.


Hi, Bulent very nice architecture, great shot.

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  • siolaw Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Star Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 4763 W: 618 N: 10303] (38294)
  • [2008-02-08 22:41]

Hi Bulent
Maybe one of the most photographed staircases, but i never saw it... You have a fantastic POV here with perfect framing too. Technical parameters (colors, sharp, expo) are correct. The people in there add life to the scene
An informative note too.

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  • erel Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Note Writer [C: 791 W: 0 N: 384] (11890)
  • [2008-02-08 22:57]

Sevgili bülent bey,enfes bir bakış açısı ,kadrajı ve kompozisyonu,vede netliğiyle ustaca bir kare olmuş....tebrikler .EREL

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  • ryno Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Note Writer [C: 766 W: 0 N: 281] (6861)
  • [2008-02-08 23:08]

Hi Bulent, I really like this composition. Your angle seems to make the most of the staircase and there's a good balance to the shot with the spacing of the human figures. I must say, I have never seen this staircase before. It looks like an impressive place. Well done!

spiralli fotoğraflar her zaman çok çekici geliyor bana zaten... bu da en güzel örneklerinden biri olmuş bülent bey... insan faktörü de dinamizm katmış, oransal değerlendirme şansı vermiş... siyah-beyaz da çok güzel olurdu eminim... elinize sağlık... selamlar


Hi Bullent,
Interesting architecture shot.Nice light and good POV.
Informative note too.
Thanks for sharing.

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  • faubry Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Star Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 3066 W: 340 N: 4524] (35447)
  • [2008-02-09 0:12]

bonjour Bulent, a great shot, i like all curves stairs and people add a lot, superb graphic composition.

J'aime bien ta version de ce superbe escalier et surtout la répartition des personnages aux différents niveaux (j'aurais peu-être supprimé la rambarde au premier plan?)

it is a marvelous shot Bulent,
the spiral is great, special with all those people on it, very good photo and well seen shot, I like it a lot my friend, have a nice weekend

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  • ChrisJ Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Star Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 14496 W: 1047 N: 29318] (138554)
  • [2008-02-09 0:44]

Merhaba Bulent

A superb, downward pov, on the spiral staircase, with the people providing scale & context. Excellent sharpness & contrast. Tfs!

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  • jasmis Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Star Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 3162 W: 831 N: 3819] (58603)
  • [2008-02-09 0:55]

Superb perspective. Really great presentation. Interesting note, as well.

Hello Bulent,
An excellent perspective on this architectural masterpiece. The tones and textures are beautifully captured whilst the people add a nice touch of vitality.

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  • jhm Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Star Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 24636 W: 523 N: 41354] (177684)
  • [2008-02-09 1:23]

Hello dear Bulent,

With the logarithmic come we back to the mathematics,
I found this always very pleasant for do.
Maybe one of the most beautiful staircases and certainly with presence of peoples on the stair.
Very well architecture and very nice presentation with this quality.
Thanks for sharing.

Have a nice weekend,

Hello Bulent Bey,
An amazing composition, very nice graphical effect. It is also very nice that one row is full of people and the other one is empty. The light management is excellent, the sharpness of the decoration is very nice. The colors are fantastic,too
Thanks a lot for sharing with us,
Best regards,

Amazing Photo Bulent!
I can not stop see the picture and to follow the spiral direction from top till the bottom.
Excellent and very creative POV gave as a result a very imaginative picture.
I wish you nice week end.

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  • belido Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Star Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 5207 W: 315 N: 5056] (19934)
  • [2008-02-09 3:50]

Hi Bulent,

another topic of your book. It's really nice to see those images in here...and I know how important is context of them. Great capture of the spiral stairs with the human inclusion. Well done!

hi Bulent
well framed and fine colour of the frame
a famous and fantastic stairway
maybe i would have croped the upper part to make the illusion that this stairway has no begining

Selam sevgili Bülent,
Muhteşem ! Senin gibi bir bilim adamına da böyle bir isim yakışırdı. Muhteşem bakış açısı, nefis renkler.
Verdiğin açıklamalar da işin kreması.
Selam ve sevgiler

Hi Bulent .
Excellent composition , fine lighting and wonderful ornaments . A spectacular photo completed by your most interesting note !
Have a nice wekend !
Kindest regards

Very photographed staircase indeed ! The colored tourists add some nice color touch. On the other hand I think it would be impossible to take a picture of this staircase with no people at all.
Interesting physicist note on the spirals !
Regards Stefano

Hello Bulent Bey,
The pov is absolutely genial. The details and sharpness, the human factor and the way they are placed in the composition, the colors are exceptional.
I wish you an excellent weekend. Best personal regards.

Hi Bulent!

This is trully a spectacular staircase and worths each and every photo that thousands of people have taken. Yours is trully magnificent, shows very well the splendour and the uniqueness of this great work of art. Great framing and composition, perfect light managment! As always in your contributions in TE, the note is extremely interesting! Congratulations and TFS!


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  • emka Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Star Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 10378 W: 146 N: 25981] (125665)
  • [2008-02-09 7:13]
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Hi Bulent,
Wonderful photo of the Vatican staircase. Nice to see the tourists coming down. And the way a mathematician look at it. On the photo it seems to be a logarithmic spiral, in fact the staircase is not a spiral, I think it is helix, like in DNA. So, double helix in 1932?
When I have sunflower head I always check the number of the logarithmic spirals that the seeds form. They go in two directions, clockwise and anticlockwise, and the number of them is always one of the Fibonacci numbers.
Very interesting note, as always.

Warm regards


Hello Bulent
Célèbre escalier mais un impact photographique très bon également!!
Une vue qui permet d'apprécier sa construction et des gens idéalement placé dans la photo pour donner touches de couleur et dynamisme.
très bonne réalisation

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  • vincz Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Star Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 2604 W: 77 N: 5252] (19113)
  • [2008-02-09 9:20]

Fabulous image. You have a great eye and you discover a fantastic photographic subject here. Great note on the logarithmic spiral, excellent colors, excellent inclusion of people.

Bonsoir Bulent
très joli graphisme et bonne présences de ces touristes pour donner de la vie à cet endroit. j'aime bien les teintes de la compo.

harika spiral,insanın başı dönermi bilmem oradan inerken,insan faktörü bu fotoğrafta çok farklı her katta insan var
elinize sağlık

great photo of those stairs - clear texture and good stressing with the people included.

Hi Bulent,

A logistic logarithmic staircase :-).
Wondering how they now solved the 'logistical problem' so that they now can close one of the two staircases... Maybe the decreasing interest in religion makes for less visitors...
Comparing the workshop and the main posting, I also have to go for the workshop, since the shadows are so nicely harsh.
And what a note it is. Great to read and get that knowledge. Thanks!

Greetings, Dennis

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  • cak Gold Star Critiquer/Silver Workshop Editor/Silver Note Writer [C: 468 W: 21 N: 49] (4931)
  • [2008-02-09 13:13]
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sayın Batalay burası bizim Ayasofyanın spiral yolundan daha görkemli olamaz!.ama bu spiral yol merdiven sanırım hristiyanların geçmişten gelen bir mimarisi .birde neye benziyor .şu bizde silindir içinde donen motorsiklet akrobatlarını anımsattı birdenbire .onların sallamasını hissettim kimbilir.başarılar

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  • stego Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Star Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 4422 W: 612 N: 7301] (24132)
  • [2008-02-09 16:49]

Hello Bülent,
I don't care a bit that it is much photographed. It's a wonderful photo and that's what matters. I took quick look at the last pages of the TE gallery and I find this one different from the others. Instead of showing clearly the spiral, you show just cropped arches, which produces a nice 'visual rhythm'. As usual, both the framing (compo) and the frame are superb. I like to see the people, they had movement, life and colour (good thing, those red clothes!).
The B&W version is also much effective, but as you, I miss the red clothes and also the beautiful green walls (marble, right?).
Regards, José.

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  • chpp Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Star Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 612 W: 50 N: 835] (4283)
  • [2008-02-09 19:18]

Hi Bulent
Excellent shot. very nice quality and sharpness. Perfect POV with great vertical depth. Very nice colour contrast ( although I like the B&W version as well).
Great compo

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  • paura Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Star Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 7887 W: 56 N: 3948] (26942)
  • [2008-02-09 19:31]

Very beautiful photo full of interesting elements. All those people walking down input an excellent "spirit of shot".



Hello Bulent,
marvelous view of this example of two helixes that share the same axis and can nest together without touching each other. Each one sits in the space left by the other. As you remarked very well, to accentuate this, one staircase is reserved for people going up and the other for people coming down. You can see the people on the other side of the hall going in the opposite direction, but you never meet them. I like your effective point of view from a perfect angle, the perspective lines its very lovely. The light really adds warmth to it with a very good restitution of the stone quality, colors and depth are perfect.
Warm Regards.

Hello Bulent, great indoor architecture photo! Excellent POV and colors. I think the better shot may be only with ultra-wide lens. Great job!

TFS and regards,

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  • danos Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Star Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 13700 W: 295 N: 27475] (110383)
  • [2008-02-10 0:30]

Hello Bulent,
really this helicoid staircase is something superb.A fisheye lens would the best for the capture of this memorable staircase.Very educational your note as the tourists that add life in the scene.Excellent work.

Have a nice weekend,danos

This classical photo is found in all the tourist guides, but it remains an interesting view. Very good result!

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  • Emile Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Star Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 4365 W: 152 N: 5590] (20352)
  • [2008-02-10 6:32]

Hola Bulent.
You captured an excellent shot of the very famous and well known spiral stairs that takes you to the more famous the Sistine Chapel. Great clarity and nice colors, the people add action to your wonderful shot. Thank you for your note.
Well done. TFS.
Best regards.
Have a nice weekend.

Hi Bulent,
as usual your works, your posts are something like lessons.
The POV you used is very good, the people they are inside the image, especial these on the top are a very strong addition it gives the great impression between the cycles.
Have a nice time.

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  • tober Gold Star Critiquer/Silver Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 867 W: 18 N: 683] (8797)
  • [2008-02-10 8:49]
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Merhaba Sayın Hocam, daha ilk bakışta kendini belli eden bir fotoğraf. En alt kat görünmeyecek derecede karanlık olsaymış, merdiven sonsuzluğa doğru uzanıyor hisini de verebilirmiş. Çerçeveyi ortamın rengine çok güzel yakıştırmışsınız. Saygılar. Tolga

Dear Bülent bey
First thank you for your workshop. Then this stunning picture with great graphical eliptical lines is just great achievement. Bravo. ihsan

Good evening Bulent,
It is thanks to dpbours (TE), which I noted your excellent publication about this superb staircase that you describe perfectly in your note. I thank you for the link which you indicated for my helicoid staircase. Your photograph is perfect. The photography of this staircase is a difficult exercise. Congratulations.
Have a good night

Merhaba Bülent Abi,
Ritim ve geometri içiçe harika bir kompozisyon. İnsanların hareketi kompozisyona ayrı bir hava katmış, hayat vermiş. Ellerinize sağlık...
Selam ve saygılarımla...
Ali Rıza

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  • MLINES Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Star Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 2255 W: 203 N: 2719] (12516)
  • [2008-02-10 13:27]

Hi Bulent. I'd not heard of this remarkable stairs before. It is certainly inspirational to see. Your notes add a lot. The group of people descending add the scale we need. TFS. Murray.

Hello Bulent,

Thank you for the correction workshop on my sculpture photo, I can see the difference. This grand staircase looks like it would have been a long and difficult installment for the designers and builders, but the popularity of it is worthwhile. It is such an incredible example of human creativity at the time. I like that there are people seen here on alternating sections of this stairway and the next section is clear. This sort of spiral is very reminiscent of a nautilus shell, which is what first came to mind for me and I see is also mentioned in your note. I have a nautilus shell and it is always interesting to see the perfection of the buoyancy gas chambers within the shell and equal spacing of patterning on the surface. Well done Bulent, always an interesting image in the true spirit of TE from you!


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  • delic Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Star Workshop Editor [C: 1219 W: 65 N: 1883] (6735)
  • [2008-02-10 15:05]

My initial reaction was "this can't be a logarithmic spiral!" Then I read the note and it made sense. Your note also reminded me of Niels Bohr's response to Einstein: "Don't tell God what to do." You know the whole story :).
This is one of your best images on TE. Composition is superb. Sharpness is unusually good. I don't think B&W is a good idea here for it's a pity to nullify the colors presented by the people. Best wishes,

Bulent: you fascination with all things geometric betrays itself again here. An amazing piece of nautilus geometry my friend. Full green for this one. regards, c

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  • PJE Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Star Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 2045 W: 133 N: 4148] (20758)
  • [2008-02-10 21:47]

Bulent it really is a wonderful photo to see from this perspective. The design is simply astounding which only begins to describe the staircase. Excellent capture Bulent!

Bonjour, mon bon ami Bulent,
Alors là ! c'est un coup de maître à tous points de vue. Un sujet parfaitement traité et excellemment mis en image.
Il fallait avoir le coup d'oeil pour saisir une telle prise de vue.

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  • azaf1 Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Star Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 2217 W: 153 N: 3554] (15929)
  • [2008-02-11 1:47]

Bulent good morning
A very special POV of the stairs with great detail and clarity, together with the color spots of the people's clothes and downward perspective

Thanks for the support to my students. They were glowing with happiness

Hello dear Bulent,

A great shot! A lecture on framing and lines in photography.
Congratulations my friend.

Warm regards,

Olá Bulent,
The curving stairs have a strongly graphic appeal that is enhanced by your framing and excellent sharpness. That is an impressive staircase, I'd love to see more details of a place that would have a staircase like this.

Hello Bulent,
this is the kind of shot i really like. The strong graphism created by the spiral has enhanced even more the beautiful compo enhanced even more by the atmosphere of the place. Quality is very good in both the version, even if my choice goes for the colour one.
Thank you very much for sharing
Kind regards


Hi Bulent, Wonderfully composed, you have captured the beauty in the staircase perfectly, excellent detail in the decoration &, I love the people as they walk down, it just highlight the way the stairs work brilliantly, a super photo &, TFS, kind regards Wilson.

Hello Bulent, an interesting view of the staircase,especially with your excellent notes.
Your PoV gives us a good impression of the size and scale of this piece of architecture.
I was surprised to see that it was only designed in 1932.I am glad that there were people about to give us an idea of scale and to add life.
Tfs, regards Jean.

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  • Tezic Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Note Writer [C: 1825 W: 7 N: 3326] (17867)
  • [2008-02-11 11:59]

muhteşerm kelimesi tüm hissimi ifade etmesede sözlükte başka kelime maalesef yok :) tek kelime ile harika... çok beğendim... yürekten tebrikler...

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  • Cormac Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Star Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 2553 W: 61 N: 5828] (26565)
  • [2008-02-11 15:01]

Fantastic shot of this famous spiral staircase! The curving lines are very interesting, and the layer effect of the different levels is very good too, especially with the people there. A great success!

Ciao Bulent,
A structure that I have seen several times on TE already, I like the overall picture quality and the peoples disposition that animates the spiral well, i wish you'd have had a wider angle lens though.
Have a nice day JY

Bülent Bey merhaba,
Gerçekten çok hoş ve farklı bir kare, bakış açınız ve duruş yeriniz mükemmel olmuş, elinize sağlık.

I like the POV here very well rendered image - good note - as usual :)

Merhaba Bülent Bey,
Bakış açınız harika.Kompoziyon,kadraj,netlik mükemmel.

Hello Bulent,
This week I was part of a selection committee where we sorted some 2000 pictures. Well there were at least 6 of these Vatican Stairs , and one even got an acceptation if not a prize. So I was happy to find another one today, and believe me this one would probably surpass the selected one. Seems as if the place is quite popular among photographers.

Merhaba Bulent Bey,
Su logaritmik spirali cekmek bana da kismet olur umarim.Detaylarin belirginligi,derinlik hissi, karenin tamamindaki netlik, kadraj mukemmel olmus elinize saglik ve dikkatimi ceken guzel bir ayrinti,merdivenledeki ziyaretcilerin birer sira boslukla yurumeleri bu da, kompzisyonu daha etkili kilmis.Tebrik ederim,selam ve saygilarimla

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  • Tue Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Star Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 9307 W: 57 N: 15761] (58380)
  • [2008-02-12 15:10]

Hi Bulent,
I remember this staircase well from my visit to the Vatican Museum a couple of years ago. It's a great photo of it with a good vertical compostion. The staircase is a beautiful spiral. The many tourists add many eye-catching colours. Thanks for sharing!

Hi Bulent
What a stair !
The POV is perfect; You get excellent sharpness and also the touch of colors in the grey background is amazing.
Well done

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  • JCG Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Star Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 5328 W: 737 N: 9440] (35153)
  • [2008-02-13 0:29]

Hi Bülent,

This staircase is certainly photographed the most but I did not know absolutely this masterpiece of originality. The point of view is superb and forms a surprising prospect. This staircase is carried out in such way that it should not be tiring to go up it or go down it I suppose. Personally I prefer the color photo which gives us a better relief and allows us to benefit from gildings of the handrail. A photograph very interesting and thank you for the instructive note.

With all my friendships and with soon,


Hello Professor 'A'
Surprising but true that I'm just looking at the first photograph of this famous staircase in the web, though I've seen it myself (& by then run out of film rolls to take a picture). An exposure of framing, but I think it would require a real wide digital lens to catch the full spiral. The B&W works well but IMO we lose the colour of the marble & the red T-shirt...but the tones are fine there as well. Good work!
With Warmest Regards

Ola amigo ,
Fantastica foto desta escadas em caracol , muito bonitos os detalhes artisticos , ficou muiot interessante as pessoas a descer, bom enquadramento da foto , parabéns!!!
Um abraço Gonçalo

comparing the main post with the WS is a great exercise. Both go very well, but I feel like you. The lack of that red shirt makes me also trend to the colored one.
I don't see any EXIF data and have to believe that you did it handeld with a fair fast shutter (at least 1/60s). Did you consider in doing a slow shutter to blurr the movement of the people?

Hello Bulent,
This is very creative framing, resulting in this attractive and dynamic composition!
I don't know how many times similar subjects have been photographed, but I think you find an optimal camera angle here...
Not to forget the great definition and fine colour reproduction!
Pablo -

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  • MeAT Gold Star Critiquer/Silver Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 158 W: 39 N: 203] (1174)
  • [2008-02-14 5:32]

Very interesting point of view. I like the uneven distribution of people. Exposition is really good as this must have been a bit hard to gauge. Good work.

MeAT :)

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  • gunbud Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Note Writer [C: 5926 W: 8 N: 8034] (34066)
  • [2008-02-14 11:34]

Hi Bulent,
Amazing POV show this beautiful spiral staircase in all its intricate beauty. Excellent use of light renders clear crisp colors and razor sharp details. Well detailed informativ note about this wonderful archticture.
Regards, Tom

Selam Bulent!
Very beautiful texture and pattern of stair well captured in the best pov!
good sharpness, colour and details in it
many thanks for the infomative notes
well done

Hi Bulent,
I saw your comment about my last picture. Thank you!
I think that your shot is great, it represents the staircase from above, in a difference with my pic. the POV is interesting,you had a nice idea to show all the people in the staircase.
Greetings from France!


Hi Bulent
Interesting capture of this spiral with people going up and down. Good perspective.

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  • TopGeo Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Star Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 4033 W: 93 N: 8299] (38220)
  • [2008-02-15 9:08]

Hi Bulent! So much impressive and very interesting picture with the spjral kacodo with decor, and the persons with a lot of colours to the clothes they give a exceptional moment to the perfect reception!

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  • toto Gold Star Critiquer [C: 2832 W: 0 N: 0] (0)
  • [2008-02-16 7:40]

Belle photo de cet escalier de forme ellyptique qui se calcule par équation et logarithme.
Bon titre et belle vue, très nette, bien colorée et bien éclairée.
Belle prise qui attire bien l' attention, bien vu, bien pris.

Amitiés Thomas

Hello, Bulent -

Nice job of arranging the people! :-) Interesting framing - and I'm not talking about the border, but the way you've dealt with the limitations of the camera in capturing pieces of the stairway by including the bit on the bottom.


Hi Bulent,
Very nice view of this dizzy staircase. We can see details and at the same time we have a good overall view.
Excellent shot!
Thanks for sharing,

Talking about unusual titles, this is one of them. Very well seen under a mathematical point of view. I love it. The photo, of course, is very nice with a splendid POV. Well done.

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  • Didi Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Star Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 8687 W: 4463 N: 15271] (61475)
  • [2008-02-18 9:29]
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Hello Dear Friend
You have in Chambord castle a double helicoïdal outside straicase smaler than this one but also great.
Very good point of view who gives me something like a vertigo.
Excellent sharpeness.
I think with my special method of stiched pictures it will be better than a fisheye :)
best regards

A great pov with amazing graphical effect and I like one part with people the other not. We can see many details of this wonderful piece of work thanks to your well thought composition. I prefer the color one because of more relief in the staircase although the b/w is good. I understand about loosing the red color, maybe you could have left the red and desaturated the rest ?
Excellent and very interesting note, thank you for the good work.

Best regards

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  • zmey Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Star Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 1234 W: 95 N: 1748] (7335)
  • [2008-02-19 16:16]

merhaba bulent

i find this to be a wonderful depiction of this visually mysterious structure, that nonetheless has been constructued by the most stringent laws of logic and spacial geometry. an excellent wide angle shot with the people bringing in both: scale and vivid color accents in otherwise almost monochrone composition. pleasant to look at.

my compliments and thanks for sharing

Bonjour Bulent
A very good vantage point from atop the staircase and the spiral ramp nicely decorated. I, also, like the long strips and the different shades of color on the marble(?)wall, the capture of the people going down and the adequate framing.
Have a nice day

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  • nes7 Gold Star Critiquer/Silver Note Writer [C: 115 W: 3 N: 41] (735)
  • [2008-02-20 10:42]

Spiralli merdivenler baş döndürücü. Süslemelerde çok hoş...

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  • avene Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Star Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 1587 W: 134 N: 2932] (12675)
  • [2008-02-22 4:12]

hello Bulent,
as usual, your note provides wealth of information, I enjoyed reading it. I enjoyed looking at the photo as well, the perspective created by the stairs is rather hypnotic, it reminds me of the inside of a sea-shell. superb colours and details, and I certainly prefer this version to the black&white, the elaborate patterns of the green tones are too good to loose.
excellent work, my compliments.
with kind regards,

Really fantastic perspective here.. Excellent work! Regards, Doug

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  • leo61 Gold Star Critiquer [C: 4168 W: 0 N: 0] (0)
  • [2008-02-23 22:15]

Hi Bulent!
I`ve seen some shots of these stairs here at TE,but no none with such a good light.
I like that you included this part of the balustrade to the foreground.Great sharpness overall with many fine details to see.

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  • adores Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Star Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 5755 W: 64 N: 11341] (46939)
  • [2008-02-25 17:29]

Hi Bulent!
Very good and unusual pov of this staircase. I can see it's really big, because of the people that are coming down.Good colours and details!

Merhaba Bülent,
great capture of this well known staircase.
Excellent composition,
you captured d curved lines in very nice and dynamic composition.
Thank you:)
Wish you a lovely day!

Hello Signore Professore, do I really have to add any points to this one? Nicely conceived and composed image. Thank you. janos

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  • dareco Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Star Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 2139 W: 54 N: 1004] (17136)
  • [2008-02-29 15:27]

A very interesting staircase! I have never seen this before. A perfect view! Thanks and hope this finds you well.

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  • sayan Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Star Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 559 W: 76 N: 686] (2617)
  • [2008-03-03 0:13]

Hello Prof Atalay,

this is a wonderful post. I enjoyed the title of the pic too. The graphical effect is very nice here. Also keeping some portion of the railing at the bottom is very helpful in understanding the depth.

best regards


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  • Morac Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Star Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 1990 W: 221 N: 2765] (27725)
  • [2008-03-04 0:43]

Hello Bulent,
Interesting architecture shot
With the logarithmic come we back to the mathematics

Hello my friend, Bulent !
An excellent point of view!
I have never had a chance to visit the interior of the Vatican Museum...
I must come back once more to Italy... there is much to see over there! One day...
With my best wishes, um abraço!

hi, this is place I missed.
I saw lot of it with and without people. I think it is better with tourist becouse of better composition..I had it in my itinerary but time is my enemy. The best place I saw in Rome was villa Borghese with unforgettable Berninis monuments. Lot of cameras and guardian but I touched it. I feel marbl Bernini did it 400 years ago. So strong beautiful and unforgettable experience.
See you on TE.

nefis ve ustaca görüntülenmiş bir kare, tebrikler..
en iyi dileklerimle

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  • Uhu Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Note Writer [C: 727 W: 0 N: 1712] (8609)
  • [2008-03-14 9:43]
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Stift Melk in Austria also have very often photographed stair, also quite interesting one, well this one is much bigger!
Great shot and amazing note!

Detayları, bakış açısı ve konpozisyonu ile çok güzel ve başarılı bir kare.

Hi Mr. Bulent,
Great composition and POV.I cannot say anything else.Your photograph is just amazing.

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  • berek Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Star Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 7512 W: 201 N: 7196] (50508)
  • [2008-03-15 10:55]

Merhaba Bülent bey,
çok güzel bir derinlik yakalamışsınız bu enteresan ortamda. elelrinize sağlık. selamlar
Burak Erek

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  • Wanda1 Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Star Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 1312 W: 50 N: 2538] (15142)
  • [2008-03-16 22:25]

Hi Bulent.
I almost get dizzy looking at this shot with its spirals. Great point of view getting in all the levels and fine details. The people add some good colour and scale. Nicely done.

Hi Bulent, what a nice photo you have here. People have said it all. A very nice eye catching one. The inclusion of people in the picture is a great idea to make it lively. WEll done. Sothy

Hi Bulent
Great composition from this POV. Excellent spiral effect e the people gives us a scale. Very good DOF and colours
TFS and greetings

Hi Bulent, love the "feel" to this. You've caught the people at a good time creating a nice flow from top to bottom. The pov works well here. Best, Brat.

muthis bir fotograf olmus. sarmali takip edenlerin verdigi dinamizmle insanin gozunu alamadigi bir goruntu. derinligi basdondurucu. tebrikler.

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  • jorgi Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Star Workshop Editor [C: 899 W: 150 N: 880] (3810)
  • [2008-03-27 12:19]
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Hi Bulent,

you probably do not need me to tell how great this shot is, but I have to give you my compliments for this excellent capture. Everything about it is perfect: chosen POV which gives excellent composition of dynamic spiral, marvelos colours and presence of people which they create great sense of dimension and depth. Everything about it is just perfect.

Kind regards,

Perfect timing - if the group of people was somewhere else, the effect wouldn't be that good. Nice idea to close the frame at the bottom the way you did. Well done!
Best regards

Hello Bulent,
I think that this is a photo a lot original and very well realized . Between all your beautiful photos, this shot has attracted my attention.
My best compliments!

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  • erdo Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Note Writer [C: 82 W: 1 N: 118] (569)
  • [2008-04-06 13:07]

Bülent hocam, hipnozu derinleştirmek için kişiye imajine ettirdiğimiz basamakların çok daha estetiği , dibine ulaştığımızda trans hali.Ellerinize sağlık, çok güzel.

Hello Bulent,
This is a very beautiful architecture & art picture. Great composition too.
The visitors add more colour to the picture.
Kind regards, Paul

Hello Bulent, v nice composition showing all the way to the bottom of the stairs and the row of people at the top.
Very interesting note like most of your other picture's notes as i read some so far when browsing your gallery, which btw is quite impressive as well. congratulations!


Hey - I noticed this shot in your gallery as a stand out on page 1... it's very cleverly composed and so effective. Well done!

Bülent bey merhaba,
ışık,derinlik ve detaylar olağanüstü. gözalıcı bir netlikle muhteşem kompozisyon.çok şık ve sıradışı..emeğinize sağlık.


Bu unlu merdivenleri cok guzel bir acidan goruntulemmissiniz. Derinlik ve hareket duygusu cok hos. ellerinize saglik,


Bulent, your posts always amaze. The picture is wonderful as always but most impressive to me is a note, as long as it is, that I did not want to jump ahead and see where it might be going. Learning from your presentations is all but assured I think, and so far to me it is all new information.


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  • amazon Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Star Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 1338 W: 57 N: 1882] (12112)
  • [2008-04-26 10:48]

değerli profesör,
epeyce bir süredir maalesef te'yle ilgilenemedim...bu kare ile ne kadar çok sey kaçirdigimin farkina vardim,müthis bir bakis açisi,
çok begendim,

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  • kiks Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Star Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 1482 W: 160 N: 1682] (12805)
  • [2008-04-28 6:09]

Wonderful! I've never seen it before. I like the way you compose it with the well balanced round lines.
Best regards

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  • Dyerco Gold Star Critiquer/Silver Workshop Editor [C: 1748 W: 46 N: 2392] (10185)
  • [2008-05-01 19:28]

Hi Bulent
You waited for the right moment it would seem with the people well placed at the top of the stairs and part way down. Excellent composition. A visual delight.

harika bir kare olmuş..kadraj yerleşimi ve kompozisyon mükemmel...bütün insanların aşağıya iniyor olmasıda ayrı bir güzellik katmış..ellerinize sağlık..

Hello Bulent. Beautiful capture in vertical format of this most photographed staircase. The perspective is awesome with fine detail of the intricate work. Very sharp image in excellent light and shadow management. Regards. Jusni

  • claudeD Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Star Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 2755 W: 76 N: 1221] (43754)
  • [2008-05-27 0:23]

Hello Bulent,

excellent architectural shot from the Vatican Museum.I like your pov and composition.I think that it is very important to have people to be seen on the picture, which adds life to the shot.Fine fotojob.

With regards from Luxembourg


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  • erdna Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Star Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 738 W: 81 N: 1094] (5713)
  • [2008-05-28 9:01]

I browsed through your gallery and came up impressed by the quality of your photos. I particularly like this one because I took a picture of this same spiral stair and it did not come out good.


very beautiful curve design. well framed, very good composition, congratulations.

Hello Bulent,
That's an amazing spiral with an excellent POV.
The walls looks like fountains and the people give a good idea of the size of the building.
Well done

Merhaba Bülent bey,

Müthiş bir kare olmuş, inanılmaz bir grafik etki.
Sanki insanlar, arzın merkezine iniyorlarmış gibi.

Paylaşımınız için teşekkürler,
@ziz Bilgili

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  • BWJ Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Note Writer [C: 483 W: 0 N: 918] (3094)
  • [2008-11-09 19:31]

Hello Bulent,
An outstanding POV and composition of this famous staircase. The colors are captured very realistically and the details are perfectly clear. You wrote in your excellent note that nature prefers the logarithmic spiral. It is also always so pleasing to see it in art, architecture, style, and design. Your work is superb, always most impressive.
Kind regards,

Another excellent geometrical picture.
Full of life..

Cok guzel!

Bonjour Bulent.
Cette photo est d'une grande beauté. Tu as su choisir le bon POV pour mettre le graphisme de cet escalier en valeur. Bonne gestion de la lumière et des couleurs.
Beau travail !

I have seen this photo (this location) many times, always impressive, and your photo makes me feel dying to visit it some time.
very beautiful and well composed photo

Bulent bey,
Bu tip spiraller çekici bir konu oldugu için hemen herkes tarafından görüntülenme ve sıradan resim olmaktadır. Ancak sizin resminizdeki ışık-gölge, logaritmik yaklaşım ve insanlar ayrıca renkler eşsiz bir güzellik oluşturmuş. Favori resimlerime ekliyorum.

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  • Yar Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Note Writer [C: 176 W: 0 N: 128] (793)
  • [2009-08-09 13:28]

a very perfect composition with nice POV, as usual. and great educative description, thank you, Bulent

Hello Bulent -

As in many cases here the notes are more impressive than the image. Don't get me wrong the image is top notch but the notes are very informative - I learned something again! Amazing! Well seen and presented! Thank you!

Thank you for sharing.


Notoriously difficult to photograph and light conditions are usually painful - this worked very well, and the human figures instead of disturbing, actually augment the picture, as they all walk dowstairs and impose a direction to the viewer.

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  • oreyd Gold Star Critiquer/Silver Note Writer [C: 80 W: 0 N: 37] (437)
  • [2009-10-19 19:28]
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A wonderful foto! Asa math professor I appreciate the description! Thanks so much for sharing this!

Hi Bulent

What a marvelous piece of art / engineering! It is now on my list of places to visit. To me this is perfectly framed with the balustrade at the bottom. Great colours helped by the colourful clothes of the pedestrians. I like the fact that they are totally unaware that they are being photographed.

kindest regards from sunny Norfolk

Hey Bulent,
Wonderful shot on this beautiful architecture. Great moment with some people walking down and great angle. Very well and carefully composed. Well done! TFS.
My best regards,

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  • titou Silver Star Critiquer/Gold Note Writer [C: 33 W: 2 N: 100] (805)
  • [2009-10-24 12:42]

I understand why it is so interesting to take picture of this staircase. I did not have yet the chance to visit.
It seems the composition is here for you with people to give the depth.
Well done!


Great perspective of the stairs going down, I like it. Congratulations!

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  • wag Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Note Writer [C: 80 W: 0 N: 128] (659)
  • [2009-11-08 7:52]

Hello Bulent,

great-great framing and angel, I like the shot very much, also the stairs are well composed with humans, tfs.


nice tight cropping, it really highlights the architecture, although i find the rail in the foreground distracting.

Hi Bulent

I am glad you put this on TE, I haven't seen this before! Excellent explanation. Great wide-angle view. Great viewpoint.

Have a great night,

Great shot.
I've had the opportunity to visit the VM.... it's amazing.
I had a look at yr cruise. looks like you'll have a very good time aboard.
I've just arrived fm a convention in N. Orleans. Although being very busy there I could take some shots. Beautiful city.


Very interesting stair-constructions. Great idea.

A wonderfully composed image, enhanced by the colorful human figures.

Hello Bulent,
This one is fantastic! Great composition and fabulous colors. Congratulations.

Even though most photographer tried this spiral view of staircases in different angles, I think this one is really good example, TFS

Merhaba Bulent,

hypnotic, excellent composition and perfect light.
Interesting POV concealing the start and end points to feed imagination.


Hello Bulent!
I've just found this oldie goldie of yours... a real precious stone! Those spiral stairs are magnificent and a very good subject for talented photographers to create very attractive pictures! I just love it!
TFS - congratulations!
My warmest regards,

Buongiorno Bulent,
it seems to watch within the volute of a colossal, artistic shell, while peolpe does not know of being there. a evocative POV indeeed.
my compliments

hello dear Bulent,

this logarithm is impressive, excellent framing, beautiful clarity on the details of the sculpture, a whirlwind of beauty,

best regards,

Ciao Bulent,
bellissima questa scala a spirale.
Il punto di osservazione è ottimo e conferisce un buon DOF all'immagine.
Le persone che transitano in essa, danno movimento, vita e colore alla scena.

Well done! TFS!

nice shot this place should be very beautiful i like this colours and specially thie effect

WoW! Psyhodelic effect! I like this shot, Bulent,
Excellent graphism, nice colours, good dynamics.
Have a good week!
Greetings from hot Russia,

Wonderful, you made a marvelous picture, here, I can not waitte to visit this place and see the delighs you show us here.
I saw your profile and your personal page and I really like it so much, thank you for sharing this pictures and for sharing your knowlenge


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  • Urs Gold Star Critiquer/Gold Star Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 1444 W: 83 N: 3294] (14082)
  • [2010-10-04 2:46]

Hi Bulent

A spectacular POV, I like it, it looks really great in particular as you included people walking, what adds life and color you your shot. Well written note as usual. Good photo job. Thanks for your critique of my monk blessing shot from Hat Yai.

Warm greetings

Nice shot. I like the pov. The presence of the tourists gives a scale to the stairs.... Thanks for sharing.

A very original shot! Great colours and light.

Amazing shot.
Really nothing more to say that probably hasn't been said already. ...at this point the photo has 314 points and it is very well deserved.
Wouldn't change a thing.

Hello, A nice photo with a well managed framing and superb colors. You chose a good POV to take this shot. Well done!

Happy new year,

A perfect hunt of moment, great composition of people and this spiral stairs:)

Hello Bulent,

I have never seen these stairs before and when I see it I think of the snail shape from inside. It is very nice to learn something new from this picture, TFS.

Great composition, ligthing, the detail of art applies in the handrails of the stairs (I don't know how to utter it as my English vocabularies are so limited) as well as the motion of the visitors who walk down the stairs to the pavement, it's a perfect view.

Best Wishes,

Dear Bulent,
This is a great shot. It reminds me of DNA Double Helix of Watson & Crick. The angle and the POV chosen is very as it truely depicts the Depth of the Well created. Did you use flash? The light is very well managed. Thanks for the great note too.

Hello Bulent,

The great point of view and the great composition creates a lots of depth and highness in this picture, but the picture is also nice calmness (very good balance).
The great light creates a lots of detail (there no hard shadows) and the people give a good ratio of how big the stairs is....Very good work.

Friendly regards,




Hi Bulent bey,

Super dynamic and impressive shot.
The spiral pulling us deep down and the people also walking down.
Very well captured.
Thanks a lot for sharing,

Hi Bulent, great this spiral effect who give a deep sensation. nice contrast and colours. Thank you for the post. Regard ... Marino

something eternal is in this picture - like gates to the doom...

Hi,splendid image makes me think of the Divina Commedia.Best wishes,Wolfgang.

Hello Bulent,

A beautiful spiral stairway. Looks like one way down as I see all the people walking down. Well observed and presented. A brilliant shot!


Hi bataly - Complexity. Complexity of humans. I think this photo is shown that the complexity of human relationships to it, I believe

Hello Bulent,

i must say that the composition is magical
Atif Saeed

عکس زیبا و جالب و با معنایی است و رنگ خیلی خوبی دارد
دوستش دارم .
همیشه شاد پیروز باشی

I so much looked forward to visit the Vatican Museum to see this staircase and then my knees failed me and I had to take a break by trying not to use stairs. I love your POV and the compo showing it a bit from the top and a tad from the front. Nice inclusion of the people. TFS

Hello Bulent,

I CONGRATULATE you on your fantastic image of the famous staircase in the Vatican - also well done on your '' POINTS '' & notes which I always find highly informative.

Kindest regards,

Dear Bulent,

This image is such a delight - a great angle to capture this spiral staircase, vivid colours, sharp details, and a balance between the static and dynamic. Wonderful.

Wishing you a happy New Year,

Hi Bulent
Stunning shot with spiral forms a picture full of impact! with the concentric circles emanating from the bottom under natural daylight. Indeed a mind blowing stuff and what a great shape, perspective and lines combination seen from an exciting viewpoint. The tiny 'ants' make this shot even more standout. A very eye-catching rendition of this wonderful pattern. Great work as always! Congrats
Kind regards

I can see the math done here! Nicely done with a great POV!!!
Thumbs up!

Best regards,

Incredile stairs and incredible shot... Bravo!

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  • siudzi Gold Star Critiquer/Silver Workshop Editor/Gold Note Writer [C: 2782 W: 23 N: 4581] (34141)
  • [2014-05-11 3:09]

Hi Bulet,
I noticed this shot in your random pictures and I had to stop for a moment. These stairs are impressive due to the unique design and wonderful opportunities for photography! Like your high POV and the way you composed the scene within the vertical framing. Excellent work! Bravo!

Have a nice day!

Good morning dear friend
excellent shot with the greatest sharpness
and lightness
this staircase is trully a wonderful
staircase perfectly executed with
perfect framing too
original composition
have a nice Sunday

Hi Bulent,
I see that hundreds of people have already praised this beautiful image, so there is going to be little more that I can add other tan to say, what an incredible view. The curves, the people and above all the amazing light. Thank you for sharing this very special picture.
Best wishes from Ireland!

Hello Bulent. Truly a masterful photo with excellent composition. The spiral staircase is a real eye-catcher. But the people are essential. Well seen and presented.
Best rgds, Wolfgang.

Dear Bulent,

Yes, this is a magnificent picture from your side. Excellent POV, Very interesting. Congrats.


Ciao Bulent
questa foto è superba non solo per il soggetto molto noto ma anche per la maniera nella quale hai saputo riprenderla con un bel taglio verticale che hai vivacizzato con la presenza dei visitatori.
Dal punto di vista tecnico la ripresa inoltre appare perfetta oltre che assai efficace.
Ciao e buona serata

Awesome shot for such a beautiful architectural work.

Hi Bulent,

Pointed here via a link from Michael Wright's 'South Stack Lighthouse' - interesting to read about the theory behind these spiral staircases in your note. I also have shots of this staircase at the Vatican, unfortunately, there were always too many people at all times in the scene!

Have a great weekend !


Howdy Bulent,
Love the summitry of your capture. Great capture with wonderful detail and quality. I love your chosen point of view. Very well done TFS. Warm regards, GiovanniG

Olá Bulent,
bem interessante essa perspectiva mesmo, e as cores ficaram chamativas. Gostei da foto. Belo trabalho.
Parabéns e Abraço,

Hello Bulent,
I always see this pic. on the overview, and thought to myself why not critique it...
I vaguely remember this spiral stairs-case, though I am very positive that I was there in 06/0980.
Excellent view downwards, people as always added the vivid tones.
Good afternoon, still morning in America,

Olá, Bulent!

Foto incrível!
O efeito dessa escada em espiral é muito legal, realmente interessante! Bom ângulo para a foto.

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